Interview with Jake de Grazia, Founder of The Carrot Project

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Jake de Grazia founded the start-up Carrot Project in early 2008. After a long entrepreneurial gestation, he currently runs the business from his grandfather’s spare bedroom outside Wilmington, Delaware.

So what is the Carrot Project?

It’s a website that helps people figure out which business are doing the best things for the world, and it encourages people to support those businesses by buying stuff from them as opposed to their less socially and environmentally responsible competitors.

How’d you get this idea?

I wanted to consume purposefully. I wanted to know what businesses were like, which ones did nice things, and which ones did only greedy things. I looked online to try to find out, but it’s a mess out there – disputed info, disagreements, bad info, info only from companies, info from only angry over-the-top haters.

I figured if I wanted something that helped me compare brands on their relative social and environmental responsibility, then there were probably some other people that’d want it, too.

Plus, I was working on a boat, taking tourists to a reef 100 kilometers east of the outer barrier, and I was on a 2 to 6 AM watch with an old hippie/candle entrepreneur. He told me that he’d use the tool, so I was like, “Sweet, I found my market segment.”

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What year was this?

Late 2004.

What were you doing over there?

I was a deckhand on Big Mama [his uncle's tourist boat], scrubbing bathrooms and teaching snorkeling.

When did the idea of the Carrot Project become a real possibility?

The idea started to be a possibility in early 2007. At that point, I’d been in China for a couple years already. A friend of mine told me about a fellowship. Friends of his were looking to pay someone to spend two years studying and writing about social enterprises throughout the world, and he asked if I was interested. Of course, I was. So I went to meet him for dinner to talk about it, and he started interviewing me, which I did not expect.

Eventually, he asked what my “long term orientation” was. I told him I was excited about the idea of harnessing the greed in capitalism to do good, sustainable business. I wanted to see businesses make more money as they made the world a better place. He asked if I had any business ideas of my own. I told him about what I was calling, at the time, choice.com. He asked me why I wasn’t doing it.

I said that I was young and inexperienced and pretty much knew nothing about anything. He said, “So what?” and then told me he had decided not to help me get the fellowship, but instead to help me start the business.

What were you doing at the time?

I was working for a start-up in online language learning in Beijing.

Is Beijing a good place for a young social entrepreneur to be?

I don’t have much to compare it to, but yeah. There are lots of smart, young, adventurous people there to talk ideas with, and people are from all over, so the connections are super diverse. And the fact that BJ is the philanthropic capital of a huge developing country means that it attracts some solid non-profity people, too, who are, in my opinion, essential to social enterprise.


So when do you expect to turn a profit?

Not for a while. The focus now is to deliver something valuable to our users – valuable brand comparisons that are trustworthy, humble, and as accurate as possible. Once we have that, then we can focus on making money. But we’ll be scraping for a while, no question.

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Learn more about The Carrot Project by visiting the company’s profile. Learn more about being a thoughtful, engaged consumer here.


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Tom Dibblee is a writer and traveler from San Francisco. Since graduating from Claremont McKenna College in Southern California, he's lived in San Francisco, Buenos Aires, Paris and New York City.

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  • Sarah_Menkedick replied on January 14, 2009

    Thanks for this interview–it's always a relief to have more information about just what we're consuming. Sometimes I feel despondent because I feel like, ugg, it's so hard to trace things back to their point of origin, to really know the ethical implications of different products. And it's easy to sort of shrug and forget about it, but that guilt always keeps coming back. So the more information to empower the consumer to make ethical decisions and to think about where his/her products are coming from, the better–and I think this is a stronger, and more practical alternative than simply berating anyone who buys from a big company. Just one question–I went to the site and was told I'd get an invitation when space was available. Could you maybe explain how the site works? (Keep in mind this is coming from someone who's not exactly an internet genius, so pardon my ignorance.) Do you need an invitation to be able to see the businesses?

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  • jdegrazia replied on January 14, 2009

    You should have an invitation in your inbox. And, if you don't understand how the site works once you have a look and click around, let me know. Thanks for signing up!

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  • Sarah_Menkedick replied on January 15, 2009

    Yo, I love your website!! Seriously! I got your invitation and checked it out, and it's great. I really wish there were more places like this that make it easier to assess the social accountability, and the environmental/social/ethical record of a company. I wish you luck and can't wait until the beer category is up and running… I sent this to my family and definitely recommend it to Matador members.

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